tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post749742841094292608..comments2023-07-06T08:55:09.782-07:00Comments on Your Genetic Genealogist: AncestryDNA: Confusing Relationship Predictions and AdopteesYour Genetic Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14696248341534125135noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-35959485268648123522016-05-06T02:30:15.289-07:002016-05-06T02:30:15.289-07:00I have tested at 23and me for autosomal fdna and a...I have tested at 23and me for autosomal fdna and at FTDNA for y dna. I have download my dna data of 23andme at gedmatch and i am very satisfied. To increase my matching possiblites i was planing to test for autosomal at Ancestry. But I would like to be sure that we can compared our dna segments on ancestry like we are able to do so on 23andme. And that i could download my full autosomal and mt dna to gedmatch? L. Provost<br />Why is it that AncestryDNA is the only testing company testing autosomal DNA which does not release the raw data to its customers. I had considered testing through AncestryDNA until I realized that they only release their predictions. Is this still the case today in may 6, 2016?luciendianeenfrancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13744364880890949628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-23038888225156683842015-12-11T00:57:43.038-08:002015-12-11T00:57:43.038-08:00Jeff,
How did this turn out?
CeCeJeff,<br />How did this turn out?<br />CeCeYour Genetic Genealogisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14696248341534125135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-27098000329266427092014-04-11T04:39:40.401-07:002014-04-11T04:39:40.401-07:00Oh boy. I am on ancestrydna and have been happy w...Oh boy. I am on ancestrydna and have been happy with my results for purely research purposes for my tree. I was recently contacted by an 81 year old woman who was adopted at 2 days old -- near where our family is from. She shows as close family match to me and she has dna matches from my grandpa's side of the family and my grandma's side of the family. We have seen family photos and the resemblances are uncanny. I do not want to hear that when the results come back (of her probable sisters) that there may be some confusion. They are older and already confused by all this dna stuff. I was hoping to read we would see a clear-cut SIBLINGS answer to this to put it to rest for them. OMG. The adopted woman was not really thinking she would find family, she thought she would find out if she was Italian or irish or what so this is an amazing thrill and shock for lots of people. SAD if we don't get an answer.... I can't imagine how they will feel not knowing. Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09013175489916482803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-73610998515176468282014-04-09T12:18:17.537-07:002014-04-09T12:18:17.537-07:00AncestryDNA matched my daughter and I as immediate...AncestryDNA matched my daughter and I as immediate family which means I am a grandparent or grandchild. They matched my daughter to her father as parent and child. I am really disappointed with this and they refuse to fix it by saying that it is within range. How can I trust their other matches when they cannot match a mother and daughter? This does not make any sense to me, what happen to 50%/50% autosomal DNA inherited from each parent to child? I was not even included in the range of a parent and child?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15408710011611793625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-53814540800328421112013-01-06T22:29:41.364-08:002013-01-06T22:29:41.364-08:00Reading about this mix up at Ancestry.com really m...Reading about this mix up at Ancestry.com really makes me wonder about the test I purchased for my Wife before it was available to the public back in June 2012. She does not know who her father is and she is clearly a different ethnicity then her mother and other half-siblings. I purchased the test for her as a last resort to not only find out her ethnicity, but to hopefully find paternal family members. I have to report that she has not had one match, close or distant. In addition her paternal heritage falls into Middle Eastern and Persian/Turkish which is severely under represented on Ancesty.com. We have been so disappointed that after so long we have found absolutely nothing, not even a small possibility. I found this article while searching for articles that would tell me if anyone is having any success and I just haven’t found any good reports. I called Ancesty.com a while ago and I asked the Customer Service Representative if it was normal to have 3 3rd-4th cousin matches with a 96% confidence rate and yet some do not even share any ethnicities. All the Customer Service Rep said was “Yes, It’s normal.” Well if they don’t share any ethnicities, then how are they 3rd-4th cousins with a 96% rating? Reading about this mix-up really makes me question if they messed up her test in some way. I have been losing faith in the AncestryDNA test and questioning whether it was a waste of money and hope, after reading about this mix up it just diminished my faith in the test all together. We were going to have her mother take the test as well to verify which ethnicity percentages come from her mother and thereby would leave those ethnicities and percentages which come from her unknown father, but I think we are going to save that money and apply it to a test with 23andme or FamilyTree. I know my wife is not an adoptee, but she doesn’t one of her parents and she is searching for the same thing. I know that if she received a relationship prediction of parent/child and it was inaccurate, she would be devastated. Although having false 3rd to 4th cousin predictions with a 96% confidence is terrible as well, as it would be at least conceivable to figure out a common link with an ACCURATE 3rd-4th Cousin prediction or at least one that shares any one of her ethnicities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-1647041326091856292013-01-05T17:28:05.424-08:002013-01-05T17:28:05.424-08:00What is your opinion on doing this testing on peop...What is your opinion on doing this testing on people adopted from other countries? Is the pool of people too small at this point? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-78645231933492552772012-10-02T11:49:40.526-07:002012-10-02T11:49:40.526-07:00CeCe, I am quite disturbed by the ongoing lack of ...CeCe, I am quite disturbed by the ongoing lack of ethics at Ancestry, not only in the DNA department, but in all aspects of its operations. I have been fighting them for over fifteen years on various levels and continue to call them "Engulf and Devour"....<br /><br />Brownie's Pointshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10245299739101873694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-59696909720809222542012-08-29T07:44:56.941-07:002012-08-29T07:44:56.941-07:00I recently received my 3rd atDNA testing kit from ...I recently received my 3rd atDNA testing kit from Ancestry and was surprised that it contained the saliva test vs the cheek 3-swab method. I called in to ask them about it, and was told that they are experiencing issues running the atDNA and the cheek swabs, so have decided to only do saliva testing from here on out (but that mtDNA and yDNA will still remain as cheek swabs) as it is more accurate.<br /><br />It does make me wonder now if MY testings are accurate. I have 4 96-99% confidence matches, but cannot figure out how I am related. 2 of the matches are fairly well tree'd, but the other 2 are not, and in fact, one is administered by a woman who is not even biologically connected to the subject, yet has the sample tied to HER lineage and when I tried to find out more information regarding the paternal side of subject, she stopped communicating with me. Oh well! TChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17554232163023021481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-17992398896677484392012-08-24T20:33:38.299-07:002012-08-24T20:33:38.299-07:00Ancestry.....can you correct the other issues, als...Ancestry.....can you correct the other issues, also? See these blogs for more problems with your product: <br />Ancestry’s Consent Form for Ancestry DNA Autosomal Test, posted 16 Aug 2012<br />http://dna-explained.com/<br /><br />My Ancestry autosomal DNA Test at: http://cruwys.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/my-ancestry-autosomal-dna-test-part-i.html Genealemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08862053925857198520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-80046829445058166452012-08-24T20:03:23.621-07:002012-08-24T20:03:23.621-07:00I totally agree with you Debbie. I will not use t...I totally agree with you Debbie. I will not use their testing and am horribly upset about having to pay for an Ancestry subscription and now they refer you to other paid for view companies to see data they claim to have in their database! I worry that those who are very new to genetic genealogy won't understand the issues and problems. What a shame!Genealemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08862053925857198520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-1633989209805302982012-08-24T19:08:17.180-07:002012-08-24T19:08:17.180-07:00I agree, Ann. In fact, I just wrote something simi...I agree, Ann. In fact, I just wrote something similar in my follow-up post. Your Genetic Genealogisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14696248341534125135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-58675749201048254632012-08-24T19:02:10.554-07:002012-08-24T19:02:10.554-07:00Laboratory errors can and do happen to any company...Laboratory errors can and do happen to any company. FTDNA and 23andMe customers can actually "crowd-source" problems by pooling their experiences, which may involve sharing DNA data with a trusted third party. If AncestryDNA had allowed raw data downloads,this would have simplified matters considerably. DNACousinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16853537836104702338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-75956424998576377682012-08-24T18:48:47.507-07:002012-08-24T18:48:47.507-07:00Steven,
This is very interesting. I looked at your...Steven,<br />This is very interesting. I looked at your blog post with the images. I had never heard of that happening with such a distant cousin, so thanks for bringing it to my attention.<br /> <br />For beginners - in this case, a small amount of fully identical segments wouldn't be confused with a full sibling due to the difference in total shared DNA. <br /><br />Thanks Steven!Your Genetic Genealogisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14696248341534125135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-4372182359848900562012-08-24T18:45:02.719-07:002012-08-24T18:45:02.719-07:00So, Paul, you were proven right! Good call!So, Paul, you were proven right! Good call!Your Genetic Genealogisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14696248341534125135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-72750209326338178772012-08-24T18:43:42.520-07:002012-08-24T18:43:42.520-07:00Rebekah - This is is a good point. I have put this...Rebekah - This is is a good point. I have put this question to AncestryDNA, but have not yet received a response.Your Genetic Genealogisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14696248341534125135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-50044214218109418972012-08-24T18:42:37.611-07:002012-08-24T18:42:37.611-07:00Knowing your situation and enthusiasm for genetic ...Knowing your situation and enthusiasm for genetic genealogy, I think you should still go through with the test too. Just remember, if you get unexpected results (again), you may have to retest her at 23andMe or FTDNA to find out if they were accurate.Your Genetic Genealogisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14696248341534125135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-17189495041449569502012-08-24T18:39:02.011-07:002012-08-24T18:39:02.011-07:00Dick Hill was also offered this complimentary six ...Dick Hill was also offered this complimentary six month access to "Ancestry Connections". Without it, apparently, non-subscribers cannot even contact their matches. Your Genetic Genealogisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14696248341534125135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-24133694706324450982012-08-24T17:53:45.799-07:002012-08-24T17:53:45.799-07:00Rebekah
From what I can gather you have access to...Rebekah<br /><br />From what I can gather you have access to your matches but without a subscription you won't be able to access the trees of your matches. All the tree on Ancestry are restricted to members only. This effectively means that people will be tied into an Ancestry subscription to get the genealogical information they need to determine whether or not the match is worth pursuing. The blogger Genealogue was granted six months' free access to "Ancestry Connections" because he couldn't view the trees of his matches:<br /><br />http://www.genealogue.com/2012/06/ancestrydna-and-possible-faux-pa.htmlDebbie Kennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11573470282571579765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-23120542318486379692012-08-24T17:23:00.822-07:002012-08-24T17:23:00.822-07:00Why is it that AncestryDNA is the only testing com...Why is it that AncestryDNA is the only testing company testing autosomal DNA which does not release the raw data to its customers. I had considered testing through AncestryDNA until I realized that they only release their predictions. That is absolutely ludicrous. I would rather invest my money with a company who gives me the tools to verify my own results, then I would better be able to catch any errors. That happened with my results at one time with 23andMe. Because I was able to catch it the issue was resolved very quickly. If AncestryDNA wants to compete in the autosomal market, then they need to give customers value for their investment. I would far rather pay more to test with a company who gives me the tools I need to verify relationships. Is it that Ancestry doesn't trust me with my own information, but are willing to use that information in research studies?? AncestryDNA has a lot to learn in this particular market.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11277188706558846085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-18345123613451767332012-08-24T14:58:15.005-07:002012-08-24T14:58:15.005-07:00AncestryDNA, and the laboratories we work with, ta...AncestryDNA, and the laboratories we work with, take the quality and accuracy of our DNA test very seriously. Through our quality control procedures, we recently discovered that a small number of customers had a problem with their DNA results due to a laboratory error. In the rare case where there is an error, we work directly with our members to correct the results, which in some cases requires a new DNA sample. We have contacted all the individuals affected by this error and are in the process of correcting it. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience and confusion that can be a result of an error and are working hard to make this right for our members in a timely manner. We appreciate everyone’s patience as we continue to fine-tune this exciting new product.AncestryDNAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14270771007967358981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-38582845476046042412012-08-24T06:16:40.312-07:002012-08-24T06:16:40.312-07:00Paul,
A sample mix up does sound like the likely ...Paul,<br /><br />A sample mix up does sound like the likely problem. Yes, it is relevant to know if both men were in the same batch or if one of them had previously tested through SMGF.<br /><br />RebekahRebekahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15408754295995549623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-72472186203823220092012-08-24T06:13:19.038-07:002012-08-24T06:13:19.038-07:00CeCe,
Is it true that if you give up a paid subsc...CeCe,<br /><br />Is it true that if you give up a paid subscription to Ancestry.com you loose your DNA matching?Rebekahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15408754295995549623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-66063649279421799362012-08-23T06:27:21.974-07:002012-08-23T06:27:21.974-07:00CeCe and all
Thank you for taking the time to shar...CeCe and all<br />Thank you for taking the time to share this...<br />I did the ancestry.com and I am sorry I did now but it is another lesson in look before you leap. It is hard not to jump when you adopted and want to find family and medical history. <br />It is good to know there are people like CeCe and other search angles take the time to help us<br />Thanks <br />BobAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14336169045408626525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-51707587447223342932012-08-22T19:17:16.745-07:002012-08-22T19:17:16.745-07:00Ancestry is once again jumping into a new arena wi...Ancestry is once again jumping into a new arena without consulting the stakeholders and experts in the field, nor asking the consumers what they actually want. Now, while they are still technically in beta, is the time to slow down, listen, and respond.Cathi at Stone House Researchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13208688402530021542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-42167676177059312842012-08-22T19:09:53.329-07:002012-08-22T19:09:53.329-07:00Beta, my butt!
I believe the reason that ancestry...Beta, my butt!<br /><br />I believe the reason that ancestryDNA does not give you the raw data is greed, plain and simple. <br /><br />Please tell me if the following is not true.<br />If you cancel your subscription to Ancestry.com or Ancestry Connections, you no longer get DNA matches, access to the family trees or email addresses of your matches.<br /><br />They don't want you to take your data to gedmatch.com.<br /><br />What ancestryDNA wants is $34.95 each and every month forever to see your matches.<br /><br />This is far from cost-effective when compared to FTDNA or 23andMe. A one-time fee of around $300 for an autosomal test is all that it costs and you are all set.<br /><br />Where is the web petition? I want to sign.<br /><br />A.J.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />A.J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16813673205578242630noreply@blogger.com