tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post4276283033118603139..comments2023-07-06T08:55:09.782-07:00Comments on Your Genetic Genealogist: AncestryDNA Launch and Other Related NewsYour Genetic Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14696248341534125135noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-44870858621284614722012-11-05T22:28:22.912-08:002012-11-05T22:28:22.912-08:00I think it is reasonable for Ancestry to delay int...I think it is reasonable for Ancestry to delay international release while they sort out some privacy laws... but its irresponsible for them to not make a clear statement to their international customers... something like "deal valued customer, Ancestry must delay the release of our new product to international markets while we finalize matters that address privacy laws in the international markets we operate...such as Australia, Canada, and the UK. We expect this delay to be no longer than a couple of months."<br /><br />IS THAT SO DIFFICULT?<br /><br />Now, if on the other hand they really are abusing individual privacy rights but can get away with it under US Law but not in some other countries... (as I have read some believe wrt health testing etc) then the product may not be forthcoming to international markets anytime soon. So if we don't see this product out internationally soon, as an American I would start raising some alarms! DJKnox66https://www.blogger.com/profile/17417121630644380731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-28586364569925599172012-10-29T09:35:14.361-07:002012-10-29T09:35:14.361-07:00Could you lobby Ancestry to offer to sell tests us...Could you lobby Ancestry to offer to sell tests using their Sorenson samples? I collected a sample for SMGF in 2007 of my grandmother and submitted it with my own email address. I would love to have a test run for her DNA but because she has passed-on, her Sorenson sample is my only possible optionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-47446072543646787692012-10-28T20:55:52.408-07:002012-10-28T20:55:52.408-07:00Hi CeCe,
I enjoy reading your blog. Very informat...Hi CeCe,<br />I enjoy reading your blog. Very informative. Do you know if there is talk about Ancestry offering a transfer program in the future like FTDNA? I currently use FTDNA and would love it if I could upload my raw data to Ancestry to compare matches. Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-31333206375550096942012-10-28T12:27:46.444-07:002012-10-28T12:27:46.444-07:00I am an Ancestry subscriber in the UK, and just lo...I am an Ancestry subscriber in the UK, and just looking back through all their emails for the last year of two, I haven't received one specifically mentioning DNA. No point if I cannot order I expect. <br /><br />Having a large database of US participents will not be much of a carrot to tempt UK genealogists.<br /><br />I'm not sure of the legal issues, but FTDNA just send out a kit and I send it back. The only thing that needs a signature is their standard green release form.<br />Paul Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-58473364701815506772012-10-27T16:00:48.708-07:002012-10-27T16:00:48.708-07:00CeCe, I don't fully understand all the legal i...CeCe, I don't fully understand all the legal issues. We do have stricter data protection laws. There are some links here which might be of interest:<br /><br />http://www.acc.com/legalresources/quickcounsel/dpapeacwu.cfm<br /><br />http://www.phgfoundation.org/news/11462<br /><br />Family Tree DNA offer European customers extra protection as they have signed up to the Safe Harbor Privacy Statement:<br /><br />http://www.familytreedna.com/privacy-policy.aspx<br /><br />I had to agree to abide by US law when I signed up for my Ancestry test.Debbie Kennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11573470282571579765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-903120859951504452012-10-26T21:14:19.936-07:002012-10-26T21:14:19.936-07:00Hola Cece
Just for the record, I am retired and li...Hola Cece<br />Just for the record, I am retired and living in Mexico and AncestryDNA shipped my test kit directly to my PO Box. I had them send to Mexico because my mail forwarding service charges 50% of the invoice to ship stuff down and I wasn't sure I could get them to make an exception.<br /><br />I am so relieved to hear that Ancestry will be providing raw data. Per your suggestion, I have been sending nice notes to the feedback section every week or two.<br /><br />Thanks for the oh-so-informative blog<br /><br />Mountain Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08245031277418165029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-12353952534871884002012-10-26T14:55:51.388-07:002012-10-26T14:55:51.388-07:00Hi CeCe,
I recently tried to order a test from 23a...Hi CeCe,<br />I recently tried to order a test from 23andMe and got a warning that it's illegal for them to process saliva samples shipped from New York. Ancestry's spit test didn't have any warnings and went fine, what's different about the 23andMe test that New York has a problem with?<br /><br />Thanks and thanks for the great blog!Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-68299353670881389362012-10-26T12:53:03.782-07:002012-10-26T12:53:03.782-07:00Thanks, Debbie. I am not an expert on this issue, ...Thanks, Debbie. I am not an expert on this issue, but you are very well informed and affected more directly being in the UK, so maybe you can comment on the possibility that it may be because of different laws governing genetic data in countries outside the US that AncestryDNA is currently not offering the test internationally. I know that the UK has much more stringent requirements for disclosure. Perhaps, they will wait until they release the raw data to offer the test to the UK.<br />@everyone else - it really is a shame that the test is not yet offered internationally and will definitely hinder my ability to learn more about my recent immigrant ancestors' families from the UK, Australia, Finland and Norway. I just don't know what Ancestry.com's reasons are for this limitation, so I don't feel it appropriate for me to criticize them for it at this early juncture. Perhaps they have a very good reason. When I hear what it is, then I will comment accordingly.<br />Thank you all for your comments.<br />CeCeYour Genetic Genealogisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14696248341534125135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-76635440931769006292012-10-26T08:24:10.922-07:002012-10-26T08:24:10.922-07:00It's unfair to criticise CeCe as she has comme...It's unfair to criticise CeCe as she has commented on these issues vociferously in the past. She does an excellent job keeping us all informed. I agree that it is very short-sighted of Ancestry to restrict their test to people in the US. I live in the UK and I think I'm probably one of only a handful of people outside the US who managed to order the test when it was in the invitation stage at $99. I've commented on some of these issues in my own blog post:<br /><br />http://cruwys.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/ancestrys-autosomal-test-now-available.htmlDebbie Kennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11573470282571579765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-67308830407951653592012-10-26T00:55:24.157-07:002012-10-26T00:55:24.157-07:00I also noticed that, although Ancestry.com kept em...I also noticed that, although Ancestry.com kept emailing me to remind me about their invitation to me to order a kit through them, when I went to do so, I saw they wouldn't ship outside the USA. I live in Ireland.<br /><br />Margaret JordanMargaret Jordannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-21765498494400554182012-10-25T22:07:41.729-07:002012-10-25T22:07:41.729-07:00If I am wrong then please accept my apology... as ...If I am wrong then please accept my apology... as it is possible that because I read several blogs, I may sterotype more than what is deserved of some.<br /><br />Having said that - and knowing that you were in fact vocal about the accessibility of data at Ancesty - I find there's a LOT OF SMOKE & MIRRORS with these products from Ancestry, FTDNA etc... and the well known bloggers rarely provide overly critical reviews.<br /><br />As for my name, I think it really doesn't matter - I just used the most expeditious route to post.<br /><br />So now that we're clear, is it not asinine to release this product and then restrict the rest of the world from participating from day 1? Stating that there is hope for expansion into int'l markets is very sugar coated to me... stating such an obvious shortcoming on their part should have been higlighted.. not mentioned in passing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-4717714504060197452012-10-25T20:49:02.128-07:002012-10-25T20:49:02.128-07:00It's funny that you say that since I have been...It's funny that you say that since I have been the blogger who has been the most critical of AncestryDNA all along. In fact, I am the one who has repeatedly mentioned the problems with their admixture analysis since the launch of their autosomal DNA test. I am the one who first (and repeatedly) called them out on their lack of raw data and matching segment info. Most of the other bloggers who have written about these issues first heard about them on my blog and/or from my comments on various forums and/or through private email correspondence with me, so your frustration is sorely misdirected. The fact is that I have been so publicly critical of AncestryDNA, that I destroyed my congenial relationships with key players there.<br />I am known for calling out the commercial companies in this space for what I see as their missteps and shortcomings AND for spearheading change. If you had been involved in our community, you would know that. You say you enjoy my website, but clearly you haven't been reading it very long or very thoroughly.<br />Other bloggers in the last few days have been quite vocal about AncestryDNA's shortcomings. We don't all need to write the same things all the time.<br />Anyway, if you're so brave, then why don't you sign your name to your comment just like I do to my posts.<br />CeCe Your Genetic Genealogisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14696248341534125135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-18398432364103656312012-10-25T20:26:46.336-07:002012-10-25T20:26:46.336-07:00CeCe I enjoy your website but could you please st...CeCe I enjoy your website but could you please stop being so darn politically correct about everything. For instance, making the dna test not available outside of the USA... even if for 1 day is moronic. One of the biggest intrinsic weaknesses of their database is that EVERYONE IS AMERICAN... YET most Americans have their roots overseas. This is equivilent to the term "clusterF**k" You mention this like its a minor flaw... the same way you fail to mention how utterly useless their population finder output is. Ancestry has websites in Canada, Australia, the UK and other countries... and by the way MOST Canadians, Australians and Americans have common ancestry... AND the most common place for THAT ANCESTRY is the UK! Websites like yours should be blasting commercial companies who do asinine things... <br /><br />It is folks like Aidan above that WE NEED at Ancestry.com!<br /><br />Could we pleae have some critical analysis and stop kissing you know what. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-45572687324460978132012-10-25T19:02:01.025-07:002012-10-25T19:02:01.025-07:00A great post CeCe. A lot has been happening in the...A great post CeCe. A lot has been happening in the last week or so. Your efforts, several months ago, to get 23andMe to modify their plan to disconnect those whose subscriptions had expired seems to have been a learning experience for Ancestry as well.Dr Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05774555636055110063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4773058005679938889.post-5479278223710378042012-10-25T17:00:13.458-07:002012-10-25T17:00:13.458-07:00I tried ordering the test but it said "An ite...I tried ordering the test but it said "An item in your order cannot be shipped to Ireland." Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03990803193181431998noreply@blogger.com